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CAN YOU HANDLE THE TRUTH?

Fri 25 Aug 06

Or "If I say something weird, will you leave me and never come back?"

A big issue with running stat sites is providing relevant, useful info that users understand while not cutting down what the users see until they can't question you.

On NationMaster and StateMaster, there are thousands of stats, so you're always confronted with contradictions. Figures seemingly don't make sense when you put them altogether. Our competitors like the CIA World Factbook have so few stats that inconsistencies can't arise. It's the easy option.

Our correlations feature wasn't as much of a hit as I'd hoped, because people looked at the data and said "wa? Murder rate correlates to gun ownership that makes sense. But look it correlates even more strongly to orange juice consumption!"

In a world without sites like NationMaster, we just leave it to experts to select which stats are most relevant. Of course an expert is by definition someone more knowledgable of the domain, so they will be able to digest the info more readily. But when more statistically significant figures are lying around and are not used, everyone should have access to them so they can ask why.

Now with SEO Sleuth, I chose to show every search going to every site. Now, any webmaster can tell you that people come to your site looking for pretty different things to what the site offers. And looking at the terms as a whole may give you a distorted view of what the site's about (but perhaps a good view of what parts of the site are of interest to searchers). But yeah, we're left with the same problem; people give a quick "that doesn't look right" and leave the site. One thing I considered was linking to the actual searches to prove it, but I didn't want to be republishing such sensitive data. So once again, the quandry.
COMMENTARY

by johny why on Sat 5 Jul 08
PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE THE CORRELATIONS.

it is an excellent feature.

orange juice correlated to murder rates is not a contradiction, by the way. it's strange and unexpected, but not in any way a logical contradiction.

strange correlations only tell us that there relationships must go deeper than face-value. for example, maybe oj consumption is high because there's a large agricultural sector-- which also correlates with high marijuana cultivation-- which thence correlates to high drug-related murder rates. that's just a guess, but you see what i mean.

this also shows us that correlations, a common reporting methodology in the social sciences, is flawed. a correlation does NOT SHOW CAUSALITY. but we THINK it does, and we formulate public policy on the basic of correlations, with the BELIEF that correlation equals causality. it does NOT.

therefor, i believe that this also indicates a fundamental flaw in social science methodology-- a flaw which can therefor produce flawed public policy.

i hope your site will explore this issue further-- that correlation does not show causality.

THANKS FOR A GREAT SITE

by Robert on Wed 5 Nov 08
Hopped here either from Huff Post or 538, and well worth it.
Just did some quick looks, liked what I saw, bookmarked it, even inspired to write and say -
Nice job.
Thanks.
Robert Atkins

by Pete on Sat 20 Dec 08
The grey bar that runs vertically on the right hand sides blocks a major portion of the text. Any way to make it go away?

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